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COMMENT(S): Possible new G.S. McLennan photo highlights "The Iron Division" 2/4 march
Published: March 08, 2012
Author: Tullibardine | (report inappropriate content) |
| He's wearing a Gordon dirk and belts as well, although the sporran is a pattern I haven't seen.... |
Published: February 12, 2011
Author: MichaelGrey | (report inappropriate content) |
| Perhaps film colourization technology might be applied to this photo to help solve the case? Interesting that people don't make tunes like this anymore (The Iron Division). It's certainly no Inveran. |
Published: January 09, 2011
Author: ColinMacLellan | (report inappropriate content) |
| If you expand the games photo a bit it's quite interesting to note that the drones and the blowstick are pulled half-way out of the stocks, for whatever reason - he was a bagpipe maker so maybe it was wet and he didn't want to risk the stocks splitting. |
Published: January 09, 2011
Author: KrisWatt | (report inappropriate content) |
| I was reading the"Possible new G.S. McLennan photo highlights "The Iron Division" 2/4 march" article this morning with very keen interest.
I know that you and other piping scholars agree that this photo is 99% G.S.
As mentioned in the comments section of the article. TheDirk and Sgian Dudh (sp) are a direct give away. I think the Argyll's had a different Dirk "top" where the stone sits. But I am not 100% sure.
My Grandfather was a piper in the 7th Batt Gordon's (Deeside) WW1.
I have in my procession, His Dirk, Sgian Dubh, same kilt pin and collar tags. They are identical to ones in this photo.
They other trick to I.D. might be his hands. Ever notice Pipers hold their hands a little different on the Chanter and where the pipes sit on the shoulder compared to others? G.S. has "big fingers" and he holds his hands on the chanter mid torso.
I also like what Colin MacLellan wrote about his drones and blowpipe! I wonder if this had anything to do with last minute tuning? pitch/tone? Could it have been raining just before?
Again, fantastic article. I appreciate you devotion to these types of articles and the fact they come from "authority on piping" not from some forum member website expert!
Great way for all of us to learn who these "Masters" where.
Kris Watt |
Published: January 09, 2011
Author: RJHomer | (report inappropriate content) |
| This photo would have been from the time GS spent with the 3rd (Reserve) Battalion in Aberdeen. They were a depot/training unit which remained at the Aberdeen Garrison from 04 Aug 1914 - 11 Nov 1918 and which supplied drafts to the Regular Battalions overseas. Volume 2 of the pipe music collection says that GS was transferred to the 3rd as early as 1913. But given the nature of the parade, I believe it likely to be after 04 August 1914.
In either case, 1911 is probably a bit early. One would expect GS still to be in the uniform of the 1st Batt. at that time, which would have been the usual sporran of two black tassels on white hair. |
Published: January 09, 2011
Author: bbudesa | (report inappropriate content) |
| These old photos and accompanying articles are great! Look forward to more. It's odd, but the feet of the closest pipers look drawn in, in fact GS's left foot looks like a right foot. I wonder if this was a common practice, if certain portions of a photo didn't turn out very well - somewhat similar to what they did with the eyes in old portrait photos? |
Published: January 09, 2011
Author: radplaid | (report inappropriate content) |
| Sure looks like G.S. McLennan to me.
But I have a question ( and apologies beforehand if it is a stupid question!):
Did the Gordon Highlanders change sporrans,or did they have two different types?
rsm mentioned that the Gordon's sporran was black with white tails (as in both pictures in the article). I am looking at my copy of The Gordon Highlanders Pipe Music Collection (Vol.2), and in all the pictures of G.S. in the Gordons uniform,the sporran He wears has a white background with only 2 black tails.
There is a picture on page xiv, that looks very similar to the uniform in the article (minus the spats).
Well done on another fine article!
J. Stewart. |
Published: January 08, 2011
Author: PMT | (report inappropriate content) |
| The comparison between the photo of GS as a soloist and the band picture are convincing. The uniform, deportment and "forehead" are identical. |
Published: January 08, 2011
Author: rsm | (report inappropriate content) |
| I believe that the sporran in the picture indicates "Gordon Highlander" , as it is black background, with white tails, while the picture of Willie Gray's sporran has a white background with black tails.
The top of the sporran is the same pattern as the "48th Highlanders", and the Hiighalnders sporran was patterned after the Gordons. |
Published: January 08, 2011
Author: PMT | (report inappropriate content) |
| This photo was supplied to me by Cameron Bell (NSW) to add to the schoolofpiping website albums. Cameron plays Willie Grays bagpipe and the picture was identified as Willie.
Willie played McRae bagpipes with the adjustable bass top (also pictured on the schoolofpiping site). In this pic, I am not convinced that this is the same bagpipe. Also the dirk is the Gordons pattern. You may have your answer there!
Brett Tidswell |
Published: January 08, 2011
Author: RonAbbott | (report inappropriate content) |
| Looks like a Gordon's pattern dirk, Gordons' pattern sgian dubh and kiltpin, Can't make out the crossbelt badge but the spat buttons also appear to be black. No idea about the sporran. | |
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