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COMMENT(S): Update 3: Brown, nine others in drum corps, out at Peel Police

Published: August 27, 2012
Author: Lawrie
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If the PM is flying off the handle and overreacting, why is the band’s management team not leaping into action to pull him into line and restore some sense, I wonder....? According to the article, some drummers (not all) have left, and certainly no pipers, it would seem. Something is not adding up. Hate to be a cynic, but if Brown woke up one day and decided to leave the band of his own accord, the same drummers would have left with him. Drummers seem more likely to adopt the ‘us and them’ attitude.
Published: August 25, 2012
Author: mikesteele
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Would this be a good time to talk about " succession planning " : )
Published: August 24, 2012
Author: piperjde
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Anyone else find it funny that FredFomm, talked about how he set a conduct role model, but still made a "sparky comment" about the tenor drummer being talentless? Not saying it might not be deserved, just saying if you are indeed moving on, then move on. good luck to all, I'm already frothing at the mouth for the first practice post Worlds next week with my big dysfunctional family. 16 years straight!
Published: August 24, 2012
Author: FredFomm
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Whoever is right or wrong in this matter - Carins, Brown, Watson, Sherlock - is of no importance if compared to the greater and ultimate outcome, which will be [already is being] the somewhat inevitable dissolution of a very good band or at least, of parts of it. Whoever heard them at the Worlds, as I did, gotta have loved them, as I did. We dissolved a band on similar grounds a few months ago and people still pick on each other from side to side - making sparky facebook comments about each other and whatnot. A talentless tenor drummer from that group has even publicly [on fb] summoned me for a brawn, like in the old days of the Far West. Duel at sunset and stuff. As much as I want to take my 6ft1' beefy figure there and 'talk' to him I have to set a conduct role model now that I'm the PM. Wrapping this up wishing all the best for all involved - Peel, Cairns, Brown and all pipers and drummers.
Published: August 22, 2012
Author: herecomethedrums
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I think Doc makes a very valid point. It is never going to be easy on those surrounding the band to take a neutral stance. I notice from Graham's comments how he helped put the PM in position a number of years ago, so it perplexes me as to why such a vast shift in power occurred. It begs the question, "should the PM have absolute authority in the band?" or "should the PM only have a say in the musical direction of the band, rather than the appointment of personnel?". From my point of view, if the committee ruled the band (and as such band members), the PM ruled the musical direction of the band, and the lead tip ruled the drum section, surely such events could be avoided??? Just an over simplified thought....discuss folks
Published: August 21, 2012
Author: JoelKimball
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Always distressing when this happens. I like Graham and John both. Graham, good luck, I know you'll land on your feet and be fine. What Peel's doing for a drum corps will be the interesting thing for awhile...
Published: August 21, 2012
Author: Doc
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This reminds me of my close friends getting divorced. Is 3rd party neutrality ever a realistic option if the separation is not "amicable". Ughhhh! Doc
Published: August 21, 2012
Author: piperjde
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I believe that we do work around these things just fine, it's just that with forums like these (of which I'm thankful) it makes it difficult because we all have our own opinions of the matter, and no matter small or bbig the issue is, it's rarely whats made up on here. Best of luck to both. Good of Graham to get that qualifying spot on the resume.
Published: August 21, 2012
Author: herecomethedrums
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Drew, you made my morning with that "you...not so much comment"! Smackdown! Back to the point, it is sad that situations like this occur. However what is undoubtedly a difficult time with this door shutting for Mr Brown, may be a blessing in disguise, leading to another door opening and achieving bigger and better things. I am sure he will be an asset to any band, and any corps, be it in leadership or just rank and file drummer. The guy can play a bit....
Published: August 20, 2012
Author: Lawrie
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Grown adults can normally work around such things in professional and social life. Not so much in pipe bands, it seems.
Published: August 20, 2012
Author: DrewDuthart
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Graham would be more than welcome to swim in my pool buddy since he basically lives around the corner, you on the other hand.......not so much. Graham, all the best I hope things work out for you
Published: August 20, 2012
Author: masonsapron
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That explains why i just saw him swimming in Drew's pool !
Published: August 20, 2012
Author: kiegelmann
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Our band will take him if he's looking for a new gig! haha
Published: August 20, 2012
Author: ZachGoodrick
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Kiltswinger, you are correct
Published: August 20, 2012
Author: Kiltswinger
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't all three Brown boys take over Peel together, before Cairns had any involvement?
Published: August 20, 2012
Author: Bagpipermann
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Wow! Looks like the "Q4 Shuffle" is off to a running start....I did not see that one coming...
Published: August 20, 2012
Author: jjschicken
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As the PipeBand turns...
Published: August 20, 2012
Author: Susan
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Say what!
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